The second annual docassemble conference
Docacon 2019
Brooklyn, New York
Friday, June 21, 2019
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About Docacon

Docacon is the annual conference for the user community of docassemble, the free, open-source platform for the development of web-based expert system and document assembly applications.

Docacon 2019 took place at Brookyln Law School on Friday, June 21, 2019.



Mike Carlson

Attorney, MSBA

Toby Grytafey

Attorney, ABLE

Michael Hassin


Robert Hudock

Partner, King & Spalding

Michael Johnson

Consultant, King & Spalding

Dorna Moini

Founder / CEO, Documate

Thomas Officer

Design Lead,

Everett Pompeii

Founder, Clerical

Jonathan Pyle

Attorney, PLA

Claire Johnson Raba

Attorney, Bay Area Legal Aid

Quinten Steenhuis

Attorney, GBLS

Linda Tvrdy

Co-founder, DaisyDebt



9:00 - 9:10

Jonathan Pyle

Jonathan Pyle

Getting started with Docassemble

9:10 - 10:00

Thomas Officer, Toby Grytafey, Jonathan Pyle

Thomas Officer Toby Grytafey Jonathan Pyle

This session will provide a nuts-and-bolts tutorial on the basics of creating guided interviews in Docassemble.

(Recordings of these live demos are not available.)

Law firm models for Docassemble: sustainability, metrics, integrations, and buy-in

10:00 - 11:00

Dorna Moini, Robert J. Hudock, Mike Johnson

Robert Hudock and Dorna Moini

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This session will describe how users can build Docassemble interviews that are useful in the law firm context while being financially sustainable. We’ll cover examples of business-to-consumer (B2C) Docassemble web apps, how those apps have affected revenue and client-retention, what integrations are essential to form a complete app, and how to build stakeholders within a firm.


11:00 - 11:10

Designing Docassemble interviews for maintainability, start to finish

11:10 - 12:00

Quinten Steenhuis

Quinten Steenhuis

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This session will walk through the elements that make a large Docassemble interview maintainable: logical separation of interview blocks and files, the use of Python modules to encapsulate logic, appropriate editors, and more. The session will also touch on related issues briefly, such as testing, ways to solicit user feedback, and development/production protocols. This session will contain content appropriate for both new and experienced developers.

Docassemble showcase

12:00 - 1:40

Claire Johnson Raba, Linda Tvrdy, Mike Carlson, Everett Pompeii, Quinten Steenhuis

Linda Tvrdy Mike Carlson Everett Pompeii Quinten Steenhuis

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Watch recording from live stream of Quinten Steenhuis's presentation

How are people using Docassemble? This is an informal “show-and-tell” series of short presentations of different guided interviews that people have created. Lunch will be provided.

Speaking the same language to improve the communicative aspect of law

1:40 - 2:30

Toby Grytafey

Toby Grytafey

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Much of the attention and measurement of legal technology is intended to improve one of law's roles, decision-making in dispute resolution, while less attention is paid to the communicative role of law, which sets norms and behavioral baselines. Improvements in communication depend on our ability to speak the same language in standard ways across jurisdiction. This session will introduce and discuss different methods and topics to standardize the way we discuss law, such as the NSMI, DMN, LKIF, L10n, and other methods. The session will involve a group discussion about the potential and the obstacles of these methods in promoting a broad understanding of law.


2:30 - 2:45

Over here!

2:45 - 3:45

Everett Pompeii

Everett Pompeii

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Whether you're building a free app for pro se litigants or trying to create the next “TurboTax for X,” actually developing the software is only half the battle. This session will discuss how to market and promote consumer facing legal applications built on Docassemble. From content marketing and drip campaigns to community outreach and stakeholder buy in, we’ll investigate what user generation strategies will work best for your application.

Towards a GitHub for Legal

3:45 - 4:45

Michael Hassin

Michael Hassin

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How can the Docassemble community create its own “GitHub” for Legal—a place where lawyers, courts, and advocates can come together to discover and collaborate on the next generation of legal technology? This session will explore the challenges to making this a reality and how is working to overcome them. The presentation discusses how two key issues—tools and incentives—are at the heart of unlocking a new wave of Docassemble-powered legal service delivery.

Concluding remarks


Jonathan Pyle

Jonathan Pyle

Happy hour

5:00 - 7:00

We will adjourn to Fawkner, a bar at 191 Smith Street in the Boerum Hill neighborhood. The happy hour is generously sponsored by Radiant Law.


The conference took place on Friday, June 21, 2019.

It took take place at:

Brooklyn Law School
Subotnick Center, 11th Floor
250 Joralemon St
Brooklyn, NY 11201


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